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momoy · Noob Joined: Dec 30, 2004 Posts: 33

It's not only being a nurse or PT/OT that you can go to US. US universities are in need of graduate students also. These graduate students will assist the universities in conducting research.

As a graduate student you can have assistantship (free tuition fee, allowance/salary). The amount you will receive is more than enough to support your stay. If you are not extravagant, your salary can even support your family if you are married. The salary range is $1000 to $1,700/mo. SO WHILE NAG-ESKWELA KA, MAKAKWARTA KA PA.

Start looking for universities here: http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/rankindex_brief.php
or http://www.gradschools.com/. Those universities ranked by US news around the 100th place are still good. If you think you can be accepted by Harvard, Princeton, MIT and other top universities then go for the best.

The usual requirements are TOR, letters of recommendations, applic fee, TOEFL, GRE and statement of purpose. The minimum requirement for GPA is 2.25 to 1.75, depending on the university. Of course if you have a higher GPA the better.

If you apply to four universities, you should expect to spend around Php 30,000. The amount includes applic fees, test fees (TOEFL and GRE), fare (if you'll take the exams in Makati or Cebu, exams are also given in Xavier), correspondence and others. In some cases, you can ask the department to differ GRE and applic fee.

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Tann · Regular Joined: Nov 29, 2004 Posts: 318

Students' perception nowadays are not good or so to say, have gotten worse. Going abroad isn't an answer for better living. In all cases included, they're not helping the country either. They are just making their own lives much easier and if one would ask me...its selfish.

I am one of those who contradicts to those whom are planning for abroad. I think its a lousy excuse for everyone who's trying to make their lives better.

If your asking me...I'd say, I'll just stay right here. "Buo aking loob, may agimat ang dugo ko". Translation = "My intestines are whole, I have a talisman in my blood"

hehehe.

knight_armour · Super-Veteran Joined: Oct 26, 2004 Posts: 854

*agrees with tann*

daghan kaayo kong madunggan na conversation which goes like this,

"nganong nag-nursing man ka?"

the answer? "para maka abroad.."

that sounded sooo lame. Rolling Eyes

is it true that the graduates of nursing studs this year would serve the country first for at least two years then saka na sila makaka-abroad?

kay dili daw pakumpiyansa ang gobyerno. the philippines kasi had gone no. 1 in producing nurses which go abroad.

Mimse · Noob Joined: Sep 16, 2004 Posts: 13

Tann wrote:

Going abroad isn't an answer for better living. In all cases included, they're not helping the country either. They are just making their own lives much easier and if one would ask me...its selfish.

I am one of those who contradicts to those whom are planning for abroad. I think its a lousy excuse for everyone who's trying to make their lives better.hehehe.

My opinion is that its more of a sacrifice. Sending dollars to Mama (and the suckers) back home. Agwanta bisag mingaw gyod kaayo. Bisag ang feeling is that you are just a second class human being.

If only there are lots of good-paying-jobs in the Philippines, then people won't think of going abroad.

hmmm · Sub-Veteran Joined: Oct 22, 2004 Posts: 463

going abroad is actually an act of courage and a sacrifice. sulayi gani ninyo and you'll find out.

going abroad is also a path of learning. when you go abroad, you widen your horizons.

with the things you learn abroad, you can come back later and serve your country better.

those who are left behind in our country should understand that, labi na jud tong mga suckers who think that anyone who has gone abroad will come back with tons of gold.

by the way, did you know that the worst treatment that balikbayans get is not from foreigners but from their fellow pinoys? from the money-sucking relatives, to the airport authorities at NAIA, to stewardesses of PAL, that's where the biggest hurt comes from.

Tann · Regular Joined: Nov 29, 2004 Posts: 318

Mimse wrote:

My opinion is that its more of a sacrifice. Sending dollars to Mama (and the suckers) back home. Agwanta bisag mingaw gyod kaayo. Bisag ang feeling is that you are just a second class human being.

If only there are lots of good-paying-jobs in the Philippines, then people won't think of going abroad.

Okay...i rest my case...well, its my opinion and besides...i already have a bird's eye view of one's life outside. Everyone's thinking that its an easy life but then again...its not. Its actually the same as here...your still on the workload, 24/7. Mas maganda lng yung paycheck dun.

Who knows, i might try for a work abroad. It depends naman if there's an opportunity. At least i get to experience your objection on my opinion...if it's true.

dknight · Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 3:37 pm

It is so easy to ridicule people who works abroad, and also the other way around. But let us take the real root cause why do Filipinos have to go abroad. I believe, everybody agrees with me when i say - most of the Filipinos prefer to work abroad because of a MUCH MORE BETTER PAY (take note, hindi ko sinabi na mas maganda buhay nila dun).

And based on my interviews with people who have gone abroad and planning to go abroad, around 99% said that they can earn more there for their family or for themselves. Maybe we can say they are selfish, but we should think again, would they be out there if enough job security and opportunities would have been readily available in the Philippines? I think not, as every one agrees, typical Filipino would really think about economics, how would they survive their everyday lives. Where will they get their food for the next meal, clothes to wear, etc.

So, again, what seems to be dragging the economy of the Philippines. As we can see it in a macroscopic view, it is very evident that the Government is not doing its job so as to prevent our manpower and skills from it gargantuan outflow towards to much higher paying jobs abroad. As a matter of fact our Government is promoting its human resources exportation.

Instead of giving workers higher wages, the Government increased the taxes. Instead of increasing the budget for education, health services, housing and food, the Government instead slashed them but increased debt servicing and the military/afp budget. As we can see, the present Government is not prioritizing its people, but instead prioritizing its master.....US Imperialism. US Imperialism is using our Bureacrat Capitalist to ensure that we remain to have a backward economy so as to be dependent to the US economy and having our country as a dumping ground for their surplus products and capital. Feudalism is guaranteed in the countryside, so as to retain the Philippine economy as Import dependent and Export oriented. In addition, Feudalism is retained in order for the US Imperialist to have a ready cheap source for their industrial products which will be sold back to us several-folds more expensive. With the 3 basic problems of the Philippine Society - US Imperialism, Bureaucrat Capitalism, and Feudalism, our country will be in a semi-feudal and semi-colonial state, thus we can never have economic stability and security (so does keeping our skilled workers and professionals in the Philippines Wink

) unless the 3 basic problems will be destroyed and defeated. Twisted Evil

hmmm · Sub-Veteran Joined: Oct 22, 2004 Posts: 463

actually, the remittances of OFW is one of the main sources of income for our economy right now. so for the time being, it's a big help for our country's economy. i don't know if a study has already been conducted on this but i suspect that a huge part of the remittances is not being used for direct job-generation. from what i've seen, a large part of the remittances is being used on non-income-generating pursuits such as buying a new car, a new TV, new clothes, pang tuition ng mga bata... in sharp contrast to Chinese mainlanders who managed to go abroad, who use the money their earned abroad to start local businesses, i have a feeling that many of the recepients of remittances have not optimized their use of the money.

for a country to improve, a strong private sector is needed. you cannot rely on the government. that is in fact the reality in advanced countries. filipinos need to become more business minded with a focus on global competitiveness. a shift in mentality is much needed for the general public. instead of looking for a job, create jobs. we need more entrepreneurs. i encourage MSUIIT students to think about this. finding a job is a good step of course. but you should not think of staying an employee forever. have your own business on the side so you can leave your job after 5-10 years and create more opportunities for your countrymen.

mimie · Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 9:18 am

hmmm wrote:

we need more entrepreneurs. i encourage MSUIIT students to think about this. finding a job is a good step of course. but you should not think of staying an employee forever. have your own business on the side so you can leave your job after 5-10 years and create more opportunities for your countrymen.

amen!!!

lutzky · Noob Joined: Oct 01, 2004 Posts: 69 Location: ....

Basta as long as I'm sending money to my family and help them with their education..And I'm not staying in the States forever..Its just a job apport..and in terms of education Graduate Students can apply to..maybe to those who are well-off sa Pinas or walang prob kau sa finacially..All i have to say is that lets just be happy and watever u decide either Philippines or abroad ITS YOUR CHOICE..Peace out!

momoy · Noob Joined: Dec 30, 2004 Posts: 33

MY POST WAS INTENDED FOR THOSE WHO ARE PLANNING TO GO ABROAD.

We have many intelligent students who think that the best way to go abroad is through medical schools. Have you heard of those engineers and scientists taking second course in nursing or PT? Maski gani doctor nag-nursing para maka-abroad.

If you are an engineer or scientist and likes to go to US, which path would you choose? Go through grad school in US or take medical course first in Phil and work later in the US?

I agree that most of these people are driven by their desires to earn more money. Why take a long path? Graduate students in science and engineering are in need in the US. You need not spend extra 2-4 yrs to study in medical schools. The money you need to prepare inorder to be in US is much less if you go to a grad school in US than to a medical school in the Phil.

Salary-wise, an MS or PhD graduate would earn better than a nurse or PT.

Medyo sayangan lang sab ko aning mga scientist nato. Consider the situation.... Suppose gusto gyud naku ang engineering. Pero tungod sab kay gusto ko mo-earn ug daku sa abroad, kinahanglan ba naku nga mokuha or shift ko ug nursing? Mas maayo man nga i-enjoy naku nga engineer ko and mag-earn daku. So usa sa pinaka-maayo nga solution is to go grad studies.

Bahin sa issue nga maayo ba mo-abroad or dili, lahi na kini nga isyu. Pwede na ni mahimong balagtasan. Sa balagtasan walay modaug ug walay mapilde. Hunahunaon lang nato ang extremes, majority sa Pinoy naa sa abroad or majority naa sa Pinas. In both cases, daku gihapon kaayo ang problema sa Pilipinas.

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